16 February 2010
Brian Schwertley Strikes Again
As of 7 February 2010, Brian Schwertley has renewed his attacks against me on Sermon Audio and in print. The majority of what he is currently presenting is merely a repetition of what he has said in the past, so my previous response on 28 December 2007 still applies (see also my "open letter" to Schwertley). However, one important factor has changed since I corresponded with Mr. Schwertley over two years ago: he is no longer a member of a legitimate presbytery or denomination. The presbyters of the Westminster Presbyterian Church in the United States to whom I wrote in December of 2007 have all since severed their ties with Schwertley. Consequently, without a presbytery, not to mention a synod or general assembly, the WPCUS exists in name only. A "one man denomination" is a contradiction in terms and is, in fact, the very definition of schism. Furthermore, according to eyewitnesses, Schwertley's own congregation has dwindled to "just a couple of cars in the lot – the lot at Brian’s house, that is." And yet, Schwertley continues to perpetuate the fraud on the internet that he is a Presbyterian minister in an actual Reformed denomination.
Additional comment (added 19 February 2010): I ask anyone who reads or listens to Schwertley's "review" of Judicial Warfare that they also read what I have actually written before they arrive at any conclusions. The book is now in an expanded second edition, and is posted in its entirety online for free, so there is absolutely no excuse for not doing so. Scripture commands Christians to "test all things," and yet Schwertley's followers have displayed an appalling unwillingness to compare what he claims I teach in my book to its actual contents. I am confident that Judicial Warfare can endure scrutiny and that its thesis will be found to be well within the bounds of Reformed orthodoxy, despite Schwertley's blundering attempts to prove otherwise. I also highly recommend another book that was recently edited by some faculty members of Westminster Theological Seminary in California that deals with much of the same subject matter as my own: The Law is Not of Faith: Essays on Works and Grace in the Mosaic Covenant. In this interview, the editors discuss how they also have been accused of propagating Dispensationalism, so I am in good company.
Additional comment (added 23 February 2011): In his latest lecture entitled "Christian Reconstruction and the Federal Vision," Schwertley vindicates the main thesis of Judicial Warfare by criticizing Rushdoony and Bahnsen on precisely the same points that I did in Chapters Four and Five of my book. He even acknowledges the importance of viewing the Mosaic law at least in some sense as a covenant of works, despite his attempt just a year ago to label me a "modified Dispensationalist" on that very point.
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Mr. Loren:
I have not read Judicial Warfare nor have I listened to Mr. Schwertley's sermon referring to your book. I have listened to some other sermons by Mr. Schwertley. In an effort to learn more about Mr. Schwertley, when I googled his name, this blog post was the first thing to come up. While I don't know the particulars about your dispute with him, I was concerned that your post uses hearsay and attacks Mr. Schwertley on a personal level. I'm not going to defend Mr. Schwertley because, as I said, I don't know the argument he makes against you. However, I wanted to point out that the defense in your article is weak since it refers to an unnamed witness and not personal experience, which is utilizing hearsay to state your case. The unnamed witness is also explicitly quoted. Also, while Mr. Schwertley is accused of on-line fraud, just the suggestion that there are a couple of cars in his lot suggests that two or more people are gathered and wherever two or more are gathered in His name, He is present. Another point in that regard, the WPCUS website lists other congregations that are part of the denomination. If you have a disagreement with Mr. Schwertley, especially in the event there may be concern that he is defrauding the public online, I think that would be a matter to bring to his attention and his presbytery (with another witness, of course). I think Mr. Schwertley hit a nerve. I hope that you may find reconciliation with Mr. Schwertley in this matter and that if either Mr. Schwertley or yourself are in error, the truth will be sought and repentance will be made.
May God be with you.
From Jessica in Connecticut
Hello Jessica,
Thanks for commenting. My name is Greg. Loren is my middle name.
The so-called WPCUS consists of three congregations, only one of which has an ordained minister - Schwertley. There is no such thing as a Presbyterian church or denomination that consists of one minister. Mr. Schwertley has no presbytery or general assembly to which he is accountable. He is therefore not Presbyterian, no matter how he portrays himself to the public.
I have been trying for over three years to reconcile with Mr. Schwertley, but he has refused. It was he who attacked me in public on Sermon Audio in a total of 15 hour-long sermons and I have a right (and duty) to defend myself.
You are welcome to read the entire record of the dispute at http://crownrights.com/store/brian_schwertley.php If you do read it, I think that Mr. Schwertley's dishonesty and mean-spiritedness will become obvious.
Also, I encourage you to read Judicial Warfare (http://crownrights.com/store/reconstruction.php) and then read Schwertley's alleged "review" (http://entrewave.com/view/reformedonline/The%20Modified%20Dispensationalism%20of%20Greg%20Loren%20Durand%20Exposed.htm). Again, his dishonesty will be obvious.
Thanks again for taking the time to voice your concern.
I am an unfortunate recipient of Mr. Schwerley's personal attacks. My character and family have been repeatedly and unjustly maligned in Mr. Schwertley's internet blogs. To this day I have never met him and wouldn't know him if he was standing next to me, but yet he feels justified to repeatedly speak ill. What a sad example of our Savior's peace, love and grace! I pray people will realize the heresies taught and seek a place where His word is faithfully preached.
Sadly, you are in the same boat with a lot of other people. Schwertley is a polemicist, not a pastor. He's a living example of 1 Corinthians 13:2.
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